This is affecting many PC gamers around the world, such as myself, as the last 3 PlayStation releases on Steam have been blocked in many countries. I wanna know what’s your take on this. Please be respectful, and thank you. 😊
I don’t buy games from big studios. I don’t have this problem.
If no one bought games from big studios, this problem wouldn’t exist.
Go play games that were made by less than ten people. Go play games that don’t have microtransactions. Go play games where no one involved has a business degree. Go eat a vegetable and brush your teeth. Do things that are good for you.
You missed the main issue my friend, it’s not about having a launcher or an account, it’s the way their doing it.
No wonder indie games are getting more popular each year
My take: 🏴☠️
I have a psn account, I own a Playstation.
I don’t like the slow march towards all our activities being constantly monitored by someone.
I won’t be buying any pc versions of Sony games and adding my psn account to it.
Especially with PSN being a paid service and I’m sure their goal is to charge for access and all pc games will become subscription ontop
This right here is the only thing I’m worried about
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I think it’s a stupid hill to die on. You have EA, Ubisoft, Epic, gog, steam, and even 2k and GTA accounts but this is where you draw the line? Come on, that’s just stupid. I would also point out that those also have games that not only require the associated account but also the associated launcher and for single player games.
I get that there are people that can’t purchase the games due to region restrictions on psn accounts, but this is quite possibly the most hypocritical and idiotic circle jerk I’ve ever seen in PC gaming.
I think the difference is that helldivers 2 never required me to log into anything except my steam account to play until only recently.
Just be cause the game says it may require it, but it’s not enforces from day 1, doesn’t change that feeling of having the rug pulled.
People don’t have a problem with needing an account, they have a problem with suddenly needing to have an account if they purchased and played it without one.
Helldivers is a completely different scenario. I’m talking about God of war and ghosts of tsushima and any other game that gets ported over with the requirement from day 1. Helldivers was a screw up, the other games aren’t, and frankly it’s absolutely ridiculous anyone is complaining about it when you have to make accounts for damn near every fucking publisher. How is this different other than the region issues? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not. Pretty sure at this point anyone downvoting me right now is just pissed I’m calling their stupidity out.
you might make accounts for every publisher, but not all of us do.
What do you mean? You have to for Ubisoft, ea, and Activision, I’d love to know how you’re bypassing this but honestly it’s just not worth my time.
Pretty simple. I don’t play games from those companies
So you’re complaining over nothing because you don’t play games that require accounts.
I’m not complaining. You made the assertion All gamers are already making accounts outside of steam, I provided you a counter example saying gamers don’t necessarily have to make those accounts.
So for the population of gamers who don’t make a bajillion accounts with all of the proprietary networks, and just have steam accounts, they can remain steadfast and not make PlayStation Network accounts. There’s nothing particularly compelling about any single game. You can decide how you spend your time and money, and what behavior you want to incentivize. The choice is yours. But you are not powerless
Consoles are dying.
Yeah, the PS5 is doing alright, sales-wise. But even its fanboys say ‘it has no games.’ What they mean is: almost every game is on every relevant platform. Multi-platform development won. Even hardware has to reflect this: Sony and MS had three lockstep releases of nearly-identical AMD laptops. Nintendo’s latest money-printing handheld is literally an Nvidia Android tablet.
Everything is a computer now. Some of them are needlessly locked-down.
This market where every game has to be certified and pressed three separate times in different-colored boxes will not last. It is an absurdity. Sony finally recognizes this, after Microsoft starting doing weird shit with the Xbox brand. Because really - the Xbox whatever-it’s-called selling half as many units as the PS5 is still a metric shitload of units. Microsoft still has recurring revenue from millions of customers and the apparently-standard one-third gross cut from retail sales. The Xbox is not hurting.
Microsoft is acting weird because the Xbox was always an effort to PC-ify the console market. They aimed for something 360-ish, whiffed, and released a literal Pentium 3 PC. Then they did the 360, as a generic compiler target, and it got all the good ports. It also gave indie developers something novel: money. Once the Xbone launched, the PS3 had recovered, but only by helping PC devs deal with their wonky vector processor. And the Kinect fucked them. But it was already too late: the PS4 was just a PC. The PS4 Pro and PS5 couldn’t even tempt gamers to “wait and see” or jump ship for instant gratification, because MS launched similar machines at the same damn time.
Helldivers 2 finally showed Sony how much money they could make, being just a PC publisher. They desperately do not want to be just a PC publisher. Their overreaction is a desperate effort to protect their platform - because being a platform is all they have. They didn’t design whiz-bang hardware that allows amazeballs games like nothing else. They don’t have Nintendo’s damnable first-party appeal. They need their releases other platforms to coerce people into entering the Sony ecosystem.
Meanwhile: Microsoft is teasing Halo on Playstation because it makes no difference to them. Microsoft doesn’t give a shit if all the money in a game sale goes to Sony and Valve, so long as the game’s running on Windows. They want a market driven by developers, developers, developers, because they know they can dominate it.
Same as I’ve been saying for 25 years:
Fuck Sony, and fuck their anti-consumer practices.
Think about it: even if you can get a psn account and play without a problem, this is being done to exploit and commoditize you.
Fuck Sony.
I don’t understand how you can intentionally put a root kit on your audio CDs and still exist the next year.
Sony lost me many years ago when they decided it was appropriate to include a PC rootkit on an audio CD. This only lends weight to that decision.
Not to mention they have been hacked several times over the years.
For me feels someone is chasing a KPI on PSN users that, quite frankly, gives no one but Sony executives satisfaction on bigger number = better number. Steam on that sense made the correct decision to give back the money on people that cannot play a game anymore because of a future requirement (as mentioned by op, not everywhere psn exists). But for me, even if psn is available, you should be able to refuse to further engage on a game based on a future requirement like this and get the money back (same applies if for instance a game all of a sudden has something like denuvo).
So my take away of this is: please, get rid of kpis, it’s about time we learn to get away from hard metrics that can be cheated
When a metric becomes a target, it ceases to be a good metric.
My thoughts on this is that people, regardless of financial status, should just skip buying a PS5 and for a lower price just get a refurbished Steam Deck from Valve for cheaper. Also to straight up avoid buying PlayStation titles on PC in order to send a message that this toxic behavior is unacceptable.
That’s me I have bough most consoles over the years. Now I have a steam deck and I’m staying there. Purchase a game and being able to play it on the next version because it’s just a PC is going to be nice. No more worries about backwards compatibility.
I’m honestly against all the other launchers too, but at the very least I’m able to make an account without inputting false location info, as well as actually buy their games! But with Playstation it’s a special case; Sony is the only gaming company that refuse to provide PSN in many countries for some fucking reason!
The fact that they do shitty things like this will male me ignore their games or wait for a crack. I ignore most EA games as well or anything that has another launcher/account forced on you.
Ultimately my main issue isnt that the company is doing shit things. The issue is that they don’t have to care because people will keep paying them money regardless and our opinions/objections mostly go unnoticed and inconsequential. Although public backlash did help the Helldivers 2 situation.
Great analysis!
I don’t like this requirement, but I can understand that this is their product and they can do that. The real problem is that I can’t even buy these games as Sony isn’t selling them in my country. What is more hilarious is that I can get Ghosts of Tsushima or God of War for PS5 on a physical disk, but I can’t buy them on Steam. Sony even has official stores where they sell PS5 in some of these countries, including mine. That looks incredibly strange. I wonder what Sony is trying to achieve. Apparently, they think that the end justifies the means. I guess we’ll find out soon enough. I’d bet on an independent PC store.
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