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  • Steve@communick.news
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    1 day ago

    Would I not pay my roofer if they were a Rump supporter?
    They did a good job on my roof. What do their political opinions matter?

    If I was XRaying your broken arm, would you refuse, because I support a tankie for writing apolitical software I like to use?

    • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      1 day ago

      are you really in the piracy comm, telling people they should pay for free software by using healthcare, which should also be free, as an example?

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          1 day ago

          Ah, well I thought of that and specifically left in the option of just not doing this when I had chatGPT write it out for me, for those people who do want to donate to tankies.

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            1 day ago

            My perception is you are trying to talk people out of donating to maintain lemmy, while using it yourself?

            What does this even have to do with piracy ???

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        1 day ago

        Using free software isn’t piracy to begin with. This post is actually in the wrong community.

        You see how I didn’t even address your point, and instead brought up a different and only tangentially related argument? Makes me seem like a dick doesn’t it.

    • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      20 hours ago

      One of the main devs has previously admitted that a lot of that money just goes to server costs for .ml. Fuck that shit.

      • Steve@communick.news
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        17 hours ago

        That is a good point. I can see how somone wouldn’t want to support the instance with views they don’t like… However.
        Dogfooding ones own software is an important part of the development process. So it makes sense they would use it for that.

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        13 hours ago

        You mean the instance that tests new updates for bugs before you can leech off of their work?

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      The acceptance of medical care is not an equivalent situation to using free software in terms of ideological concerns. That’s conflating a social media platform with being as necessary as medical treatment. Even the roofing situation wouldn’t fit as the work is complete and they can’t exactly undone that work without destroying part of your existing house now and they certainly aren’t based on optional donation are they? I mean I assume you contracted to have them do that work, right? So that wouldn’t be a valid comparison to make either. Is Lemmy equally as important as blood poisoning or having a home to you?

      The other glaring issue you didn’t consider is agent vs. artifact. In neither case is the actual person performing the service (roofer or doctor) the one being criticized for holding the tankie views. By that logic, you wouldn’t be able to interact with anyone who is apathetic about an issue/belief/etc you are not. A working example of that would you you posting to a forum post by the OP who has different views. You shouldn’t be interacting with him if you actually believed what you wrote.

      • Steve@communick.news
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        1 day ago

        I’m sorry I genuinely don’t understand.
        First you tear down my bad analogies. Ignores the point, but fine.
        Then you go and make the same, or similar point I was making? I’m not sure. And think by some twist of logic maybe, think I wouldn’t engage positively with someone I have disagreements with?

        I read your comment three times and I still don’t understand what you’re trying to get across.

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          24 hours ago

          I’m not sure why you’d be struggling with this, honestly. You understand the proxy relationships you created in your weird one-offs right?

          “Don’t set my bones, Dr. Steve donated to X” is not the same as “I don’t want to donate to X”. You inserted yourself in the middle of it and then claimed in a life threatening situation he wouldn’t have an issue giving you money. You are not the tankie. You don’t matter in the OP’s decision regarding donations to the tankie. The roofers don’t matter in the OP’s decision regarding donations to the tankie. The tankie is the only one who matters in that scenario, it doesn’t matter who you inject between them as a shield.

          You might read about the separation of roles and responsibility. That’s not ignoring the point, its proving you have no point to be made.

          As for your other comment: You said you wouldn’t engage positively with someone you disagree with like the OP, but yet the OP is required according to you to engage positively with the developer who he disagrees with? If the OP can’t post about the dev in that way, why are you able to post about the OP in that way?

          If you still struggle with that, I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe look up “hypocrisy”?

          • Steve@communick.news
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            24 hours ago

            Ok. I understand a little better now. You may have skimmed what I wrote quickly, and made a bunch of assumptions and guesses about what I meant.

            “Don’t set my bones, Dr. Steve donated to X” … claimed in a life threatening situation

            I’m an Xray tech, not a doctor.
            Never mentioned setting bones just taking xray images.
            I also didn’t mention or imply any life threatening situations. That’s purely your imagination.

            The roofers don’t matter in the OP’s decision regarding donations to the tankie.

            My roofer example didn’t mention tankies at all.
            I implied I would pay the roofer (singular) even though they were a (t)Rump supporter, and I don’t support their politics.

            You said you wouldn’t engage positively with someone you disagree with like the OP

            Never said anything of the sort. That’s your imagination again.

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              23 hours ago

              I didn’t skim. You only wrote 3 lines…

              At this point you’re just trying to argue semantics like that will somehow make your non-points logically coherent. As for that last thing you wrote that you said you didn’t write, its verbatim from your later comment. so yeah you did say that. Literally just had to scroll up to find it, man. That wasn’t hard.

              Either way, doesn’t matter. You’re just backpedaling at this point trying to say you either didn’t say something or argue that I’m wrong because your analogies don’t make sense (like I’m responsible for your bad writing). I’ve given you terms to research, I hope you do better when you try to start arguments online in the future because you did a terrible job tonight. Later.

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                You see how I didn’t even address your point, and instead brought up a different and only tangentially related argument? Makes me seem like a dick doesn’t it.

                That part?
                That’s sarcasm. See how I called myself a dick for doing that?

                It was only 4 lines. And yet you misread, misunderstood, or just plain missed, multiple things on each and every one of them.
                Maybe that’s my fault for writing poorly. But since you didn’t even count them all, I’m doubtful its all my fault.

                • Mordikan@kbin.earth
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                  12 hours ago
                  1. Would I not pay my roofer if they were a Rump supporter?
                  2. They did a good job on my roof. What do their political opinions matter?
                  3. If I was XRaying your broken arm, would you refuse, because I support a tankie for writing apolitical software I like to use?

                  1… 2… 3… See, in Lemmy the comments are attached under the post. That’s how you know what a person is responding to.

                  • Steve@communick.news
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                    11 hours ago

                    Excellent work!
                    Line is however subjective. On my device that’s actually 5 lines, because 2 of them wrap. And you didn’t count the blank line between your lines 2 and 3. That would make 4 if you had.

                    But that’s just coincidence and post hock nitpicking. Really I assumed you were referring to both of my primary comments together, since you also referenced the second. And calling the short paragraphs lines. Count them that way, there were also 4.