I saw a variation on this once that added something else as “knowing how to make a tomato-using fruit salad taste good” or somesuch, but I forget what trait they assigned that to.
The video “Tomatoes, or How Not To Define Art” (by Ian Danskin, who also does The Alt-Right Playbook) presents this very well: https://youtu.be/XmxIK9p0SNM
Botanic science is correct (in this, at least FFS), whereas “culinary” taxonomy followed import law that was altered to dodge tariffs… They are not the same. 😅
To clarify: A lot of well established taxonomy was severly shaken when genetic sequencing was applied en masse, resulting in phylogenetic trees very different from what was thought to be nearly certain. In modern biology, you have different taxonomy systems for different purposes, each using somewhat different justifications (am not a biologist, but related). They are all “wrong” in a sense, hence the joke.
Look, dear ol’ patronizing friendo. My experience is in culinary, not botanical science, and hence the snub at the tariff dodging history of tomatoes’ profit-focused designation as a vegetable (ie. staple vs. luxury), but thanks for playing. Syntax is a bitch, eh?
Didn’t mean to patronise, sorry if it came across that way. I appreciated your joke, and wanted to add another joke about the biological side of things on top
It’s just about which taxonomy (i.e., context) one chooses to use.
Botanically, tomatoes are fruits. But according to culinary taxonomy they’re vegetables (they don’t belong in a fruit salad).
It’s often repeated, but I love the distinction between knowledge and wisdom based on this fact.
Knowledge is to know tomato is a fruit; wisdom is to not put it in a fruit salad.
I saw a variation on this once that added something else as “knowing how to make a tomato-using fruit salad taste good” or somesuch, but I forget what trait they assigned that to.
Charisma is selling a tomato based fruit salad and calling it salsa.
The video “Tomatoes, or How Not To Define Art” (by Ian Danskin, who also does The Alt-Right Playbook) presents this very well: https://youtu.be/XmxIK9p0SNM
Botanic science is correct (in this, at least FFS), whereas “culinary” taxonomy followed import law that was altered to dodge tariffs… They are not the same. 😅
Oh you sweet, sweet summer child.
To clarify: A lot of well established taxonomy was severly shaken when genetic sequencing was applied en masse, resulting in phylogenetic trees very different from what was thought to be nearly certain. In modern biology, you have different taxonomy systems for different purposes, each using somewhat different justifications (am not a biologist, but related). They are all “wrong” in a sense, hence the joke.
Look, dear ol’ patronizing friendo. My experience is in culinary, not botanical science, and hence the snub at the tariff dodging history of tomatoes’ profit-focused designation as a vegetable (ie. staple vs. luxury), but thanks for playing. Syntax is a bitch, eh?
Didn’t mean to patronise, sorry if it came across that way. I appreciated your joke, and wanted to add another joke about the biological side of things on top
Fair enough. No hard feelings, I hope, and thanks. 🖖🏽