• CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world
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    11 minutes ago

    How do these idiots not realize they’re just free labor for fascists waiting to take over the surveillance systems they’re building? Anyway, good luck preventing people from sending PGP encrypted emails.

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          Financial issues among the general populace due to consolidation of wealth > oligarchs create propaganda that brown people are to blame > uneducated masses vote for authoritarians with empty promises

          It’s the same program human civilisation has know for millenia

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    7 hours ago

    Maybe it’s time to restart some some old Greek traditions and propose a law that anyone proposing chat control - from here on out - gets banished for life from entering European soil ever again.

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      Signal has already stated that they will pull out of the UK if they go through with their version of this, I imagine they’ll say the same for the EU.

      Get a good VPN, exit it from a non-5 eyes country, and hope they don’t start blocking by phone number alone… and hopefully they’ll drop the phone number requirement sooner than later.

      Also, welcome to Signal!

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    11 hours ago

    Ugh, this shit again…

    Are there any initiatives out there to call a stop to this? Or even better, initiatives to introduce legislation that forbids setting up this kind of surveillance infrastructure altogether?

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      11 hours ago

      Keep them informed, of course they care about your opinion, especially seeing how anyplace else in the world where such things were introduced there were successful revolutions and people doing that ended up in jail. Oops.

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      Let us know when it’s ready for Alpha testing. Most of us will gladly give it a shot and help iron it out.

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      12 hours ago

      If you’re a citizen of an EU country, you should contact your politicians to tell them not to, maybe they won’t.

      It only has to pass once, and they keep trying.

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        12 hours ago

        Some keep trying. That’s how democracy and politics works in general.

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          11 hours ago

          Many people in the US thought “He won’t”

          So, call your representatives.

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            I agree that calling representatives can always be a good idea. But you cant compare the US and the EU.

            There is no “he”, there is no president. No single person can run nor ruin it.

            It’s simply not as fragile, but again, always let your voice be heard like you suggest. Just in case.

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          Yeah. “EU wants this, EU wants that” - bullshit, the EU has no will of its own. A set of politicians within the EU, on the other hand.

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            The EU also does not have a president like you know from countries. There is no supreme leder, and laws are made with every member state involved.

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    Compelling search engines to deindex results, age verification, chat monitoring: stay golden, EU.

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        I’d almost say lol, get a VPS in China.

        The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and they have zero say over what I do, only what they do. China could demand and scream and bitch all they want over an encrypted set of programs and you’d never have to care, move to another domain and provider and copy-paste. Lock it down, only use it with encryption and let the wolves huff and puff until they’re blue in the face.

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          It’s more about the latency since it’s right over the border (<30ms). It’s also a full 10Gbps so I can let family/friends use it and don’t have to worry if a few of them are pulling the full 1Gbps from home connection. Doubt I’m gonna be able to match both of those with a Chinese VPS :/

          Honestly looking at Mexican datacenters right now. Some are basically the same distance, just in the opposite direction lol

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            Mexico actually sounds kinda brilliant, but who seems important. OVH has servers in Mexico, but I can imagine some hosters would get the Feds on the line and go “sure, here’s his data”.

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              That’s true, ICE & Co. are also all over Mexico right now because of the cartels. The whole border lock down and immigrant round-up thing is only half of their current force. And one of the big things they’ve been doing down there is monitoring/tapping their communication networks.

              So yeah, never mind, probably not a good idea. If it was just for torrenting or something it’s probably fine, but beyond that I wouldn’t push it.