• iopq@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      What is the search engine your government hosts? Or maybe they do email? Do tell

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        6 hours ago

        Those are some pretty specific additional qualifiers. Did I hit a nerve?

        I’m responsing to someone claiming governments inherently cannot be good providers of essential services, which is patently untrue.

        The nordics are home to numerous government institutions, providing a variety of services that are perfectly satisfactory, and often excellent.

        Are you claiming that email or search engines not being among them today, means the rest mean nothing, or that they never will be?

        If the current services are anything to go by, those things getting added to the list, will be fucking great.

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          6 hours ago

          Who said anything about essential services? It’s the nonessential services that I have a problem with

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            6 hours ago

            You classify email and internet search as non-essential?

            And what does how they are classified have to do with the ability/inability of government to provide them in a sufficient manner?

            You claimed something that HAS HAPPENED, could not. There’s no comeback here for you to find.

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              5 hours ago

              You think email is a human right? It’s a box to send password resets. If websites all used one time paaswords, I wouldn’t need my email. You don’t actually send messages to people over email, do you?

              We have things like Signal and Matrix to facilitate actually communicating with people.

              Last time I sent an email to someone it bounced. Imagine spending time writing a letter and the mailman returns it to you

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                5 hours ago

                I merely consider it necessary to function in modern society, and hence a service a government might conceivably provide.

                You really like making assumptions about what I mean, and twisting my words, huh?

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      20 hours ago

      List a country with a decent population of like at least 50 mio people that competes with companies successfully and fairly. Countries with a smaller population don’t have as much of a bureaucratic overhead. But even there… where do they offer a better service in a fair competition with companies

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        11 hours ago

        Google neither competes fairly nor provides a good service. We have to endure them because they have made investment in a competitor uneconomical.

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        I would argue that “bureaucratic overhead” is missing in companies at least as much as it is excess in governments. These double checks and regulations help guard against things like companies externalizing environmental and health impacts. They also act as a check on tendencies towards consolidation (or rather should). Consequently, companies appear to operate more efficiently, but we will have to pay to clean up and handle their externalities eventually.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        19 hours ago

        You are posting on a social media platform solely funded by the EU.

        But I’ve heard the USPS is not shit either. Publicly funded and run universities in the EU also provide the same or better service as those in the US for pennies on the dollar. Also, a lot of European railways are state run, like a lot of other public transit companies.

        Also, the only space agencies that ever got to the moon were public. So were the ones that put the first man in space, and the first man on the moon, and the one that sent the first satellite into orbit and the farthest man-made object from Earth.

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        18 hours ago

        Hydroquebec, alternative power practically doesn’t exist in quebev because hydroquebec kicks ass

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          I don’t think anyone could legally compete with hydro not that they could because we invested as a society into exploiting pur natural ressources for the common good of our population rather than the good of some dickhead.

          Result: cheapest electricity price on the continent.