It doesn’t stop. It just never stops.
I loved Cities 1, I was massively looking forward to 2 but it’s been nothing but a shitshow.
I’ve also had a enough of the gaslighting around this game that somehow it’s the angry customers that are the problem.
The angry customers and the state of the game are problems.
- it’s hard to feel sorry for people who pre-ordered because they got exactly what they paid for - a game of unknown quality and quantity of content
- it’s hard to feel sorry for people who bought post-release because they also got exactly what they paid for - a game where reviews detailed poor quality and quantity of content
- customers being disappointed and/or wanting a refund is perfectly reasonable
- people wanting the game to be better is also reasonable
- people abusing the devs is not reasonable
I’m not going to defend the poor quality of the game because it’s obviously bad (from what I gather, anyway - I’ve not played it myself) and should be improved. But I do think gamers could learn to be a little more responsible with their purchases and inform themselves before buying a game.
I’m pretty over the whole cycle of games coming out and not meeting expectations, people buying them anyway (through pre-orders or day-one purchases), people being unnecessarily rude/hostile/sending death threats to developers as if they were forced to buy the game as gunpoint. Yes, developers should try to do better, yes publishers should often give developers more time to polish up games rather than announcing the release date two years in advance and refusing to delay, but also consumers could really take some responsibility for what they decide to give money to.
Your opinion is stupid, because these people SHOULD be putting this negative pressure on them. It’s deserved and the louder they are the better.
these people SHOULD be putting this negative pressure on them. It’s deserved
Was it not implied I agree with that when I said:
The angry customers and the state of the game are problems.
and;
- customers being disappointed and/or wanting a refund is perfectly reasonable
- people wanting the game to be better is also reasonable
I’m not going to defend the poor quality of the game because it’s obviously bad (from what I gather, anyway - I’ve not played it myself) and should be improved.
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I don’t see why that would make my opinion stupid. Yes, the studio/publisher should be held to account for the crappy release. But a big part of holding them to account should be not giving them money for it in the first place; not just handing over money and then complaining afterwards. Complaining afterwards is reasonable for the people who did hand over money, but they should also hold themselves accountable for financially rewarding a company that puts out a crappy product - they’re part of the problem.
Yeah I knee jerk reacted, sorry.
It’s okay; I appreciate the apology! :)
I think it’s important to look for the nuance in situations and not treat everything as zero-sum. Both sides can have good points and be open to criticism at the same time (this isn’t an “enlightened centrist” take, I promise!). I think a lot of discussion online does tend to strip away nuance and take the position that if you show any empathy with one side then it means you must hate the other - I do my best to avoid that!
You are absolutely right, and clearly a person of wisdom. Have a great day. :)
CSII has been a shitshow, and the devs rightfully should be ashamed, but honestly reading the comments on that forum makes me really not feel bad for a lot of those people doing the complaining.
Like yeah the game is broken, you got an incomplete product, and it’s ok to be upset. They didn’t fucking kill your dog, there’s no need to fucking dig into them quite so hard, dude. Stop acting like your abusive parents did to you.
They have every right to do exactly what you say they shouldn’t. Get off your high horse.
You’re saying if someone sells you a shitty blender or toaster that’s the same as they killed your dog?
Link me the quote where I said that lol
If you literally said it is have quoted it. I’m making a hypothetical equivalency to prove a point.
They sold a product. It sucks. Have they really violated you beyond that transaction?
Lol no, I’m just filled with my own personal disappointment fueling my outrage.
This is just gold 🤣
God, how can someone be so blind?
But this was such an edge case, removing assets resulting in the unavailability of said assets in game, that this interruption simply couldn’t have been for foreseen.
They couldn’t foresee issues created by removing assets, in a game that is supposed to support user mods, which can be added/removed at any time? Really?
The explanation I’ve seen is that they wanted to pull the DLC as soon as possible, since it was - literally - the worst-rated product on Steam. I’m 99% sure the bean counters responsible for all of the terrible decisions (release the game, no matter what state! Release the DLC, no matter the amount of content!) pulled the lever on this one again - no chance they’ll see any responsibility with themselves.
surely this is satire no?
You’re probably right, especially considering this sentence:
It’s difficult to see in advance that removing game assets from the game will result in the unavailability of said assets in game.
I’ve seen this kind of defense meant honestly before, so I’m not 100% sure, but by god - I hope you’re right.
