• Soggy@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    A peach contains a single seed but you don’t call the whole thing a seed. The pips of a strawberry are called “achenes” which is a type of dry fruit. It doesn’t matter at all for general use but it is botanically significant.

    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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      17 hours ago

      An apple contains many seeds, but you don’t call each seed a fruit.

      I mean, I knew a strawberry wasn’t a berry, but your counterexample was completely irrelevant.

      Edit:
      When people downvote but nobody responds, I have no idea what people are downvoting about.
      Nothing I said was inaccurate, and it illustrated why their example was inapplicable, so what do downvotes mean here?

      • Soggy@lemmy.world
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        15 hours ago

        “Each containing a single seed inside” does not mean “those are the seeds” and I provided a counter-example to illustrate my point.

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          31 minutes ago

          Ah I see. That makes a bit more sense.

          But I still don’t think that’s a great company the example, because I believe what they were actually saying was that just because it contains a see doesn’t make it a fruit, in the same way that if you see a shelled peanut with the husk on, you wouldn’t call it a whole fruit.

          I know they’re wrong, but I don’t think that your counter example addressed what their confusion was.

      • whaleross@lemmy.world
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        14 hours ago

        You are being downvoted because you argue your personal interpretation against a factual scientific classification.

        If the experts in the field have concluded that a tiny fruit that contains a tiny seed is still a fruit, then arguing against it is inaccurate.

        Unless you too are an expert in the field and have some substantial arguments otherwise that are more relevant that a gotcha.

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          16 minutes ago

          I mean, it is totally valid for a layperson to criticize scientific classification since, after all, it is just a definition. Facts derived from definition can be true or false, but just putting something in a box doesn’t make the box true. It’s just the box the thing happened to be put in.

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          28 minutes ago

          That’d be a really great point, if that was even anywhere close to what I said in the comment that got down voted.

          So what am I to take from this reply? That people on Lemmy are functionally illiterate? That they can’t distinguish between criticism of an example with criticism of an argument?

      • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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        4 minutes ago

        It means “I’m dumb. There’s a lot of dumb people in this comm. And mods aren’t doing their job”

        Edit: see those down votes. Even more dumb people who don’t know what the down vote button is for…