Meta is not your friend, despite how addicted to it everyone is
In fact, it seems like all Info and Tech companies really hopped in line with Trump like fucking right away and I’m worried that not even that critical mass of 3-4% of the country is even able to protest, much less if that many people even want to
Funny how such glitches never happen to nazi posts.
Did you all forget Insta is just Facebook for people under 65?
Same parent company. Same priorities. The same people pushing AI gen antarctic ice wall and horse dewormer content on your memaw are deciding what you see too.
Meta is actively pursuing government contracts for uses of its supercomputer it’s putting online next year and it’s AI investments. They are becoming a defense contractor essentially. To acquire contracts during this regime, I’m sure they will give any backdoor and facial recognition assistance the Pentagon asks for.
Being redundant to say this. People are actively posting pictures of themselves, their families, and their locations continuously and sending them to a government defense contractor. Posting their activities, hobbies, who they interact with, their food, et cetera.
If things news companies cared about people’s privacy, they would be broadcasting that on every network warning the population in my opinion. But that would piss off the U.S. government, and they don’t want that.
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Something interesting to me is how the left takes these things on the chin. In these comments there are lots of comments like “yea well they all do this”. Compare that to the right during covid who would take screenshots and make sure everybody knew this was happening and not only that it was happening but how this would lead to dystopian authoritarian rule that threaten each and every person. I see this over and over again with each and every opportunity to show people how bad things are getting. But instead we snuff out these things ourselves and just move along.
The left have no bite. They are all bark
Can we make this character be the face of leftists from now on. Because its most of you.
The dichotomy between the left and right on these kind of issues are probably more economic than anything else.
The people I know that freaked out about these sort of things were typically maga types. Lower income, lower education, and relied on social media for all kinds of news, human contact, and such.
Meanwhile most liberals and conservatives that didn’t, lived more comfortably with higher career and education levels. This isn’t even really a left wing vs right wing kind of thing. Even the conservatives I knew that had higher education and career accomplishment freaked less out about Covid and social media “censorship” too because they could just do without.
If you can live comfortably and it doesn’t affect your living, you tend to not rock the boat
Yes, clearly the handful of people with no power that advocate for Socialism or Communism are what is wrong with our country now.
I think you are confused and are perhaps really wondering why centrists keep getting moved to the right.
Both dominate political parties in the US are fascist in nature. You have the authoritarian fascists and you have the neolib fascists.
Picking on the left is just a convenient scapegoat at this point. It is low hanging fruit and is pretty pointless.
Compare that to the right during covid who would take screenshots
Be more specific. Do you mean how sites were taking down covid conspiracies that were getting people killed?
Also, these sites aren’t free speech platforms. They’re advertisement platforms. They should be burnt to the ground.
Yes because the right mobilized and overwhelmed the sites with complaints. Add to this the mass cancelling that created panic in any celebrity made them all support each other. So now you had Joe Rogan bringing Zuckerberg on and really drilling home how problematic the left was and how they needed to stop it. The left went full toxic ex girlfriend. They were keying cars and lighting fires everywhere and never understood why nobody wanted to associate with them.
I never saw any cars getting keyed near me. I actually don’t have any political messaging on my truck because I’m worried about my mirrors getting smashed though. I think you’re living in a fantasy world created by your social media bubble.
They were getting whipped up and manipulated. A lot of that shit you are talking about was not organic. A lot of the shit you are talking about was pure paranoid mass delusion. A moral panic just like a classic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penis_panic. It’s a feature of the left that such things DON’T spread the same way.
Yes I agree with what you’re saying. But the left has to adapt or its finished. For all the talk of intelligence and how dumb the right are goes out the window. That’s because even with the money and the power, the people on the right had enough awareness to know when to lean into something even if they didn’t agree and when to pull back. The left do not. People keep saying they don’t understand how people can ignore Trump’s dumb bullshit. It’s because they don’t actually like Trump. The left doing understand this. Trump is giving them victory after victory. It’s not about Nazi or fascism or any of that. It’s about winning. The left have placed to many barriers to winning that something basic like Gavin Newsom mocking Trump is seen as amazing. That should have been the approach 10 years ago. Instead people focused too much on calling him a racist directly. You have to show not tell.
There hasn’t been a meaningful left among your country’s ruling class in a very long time.
Check out Mr. Militant over here. You’re doing your part by moaning on Lemmy. Well done you. Be the change.
100% more effort than anything else going on with Lemmy or leftist.
The left are so anti left that they’re regressing so rapidly that women can’t even get an abortion anymore. Their excuse is “money”. The actually cause is that the average leftist is dumber then the average person on the right. They’re on average less effective. The past decade is more than enough proof of this. I don’t care what you’re going to reply with because I know it’ll be some sassy comment to make you feel better. But it’s not going to change fuck all. The left is fucking cooked.
The left are so anti left that they’re regressing so rapidly that women can’t even get an abortion anymore.
So the left is bad because of republican policies? Are you real?
They censor everything, also pro abortion posts get removed
All platforms are just becoming censorship hellholes for the owners.
One more reason the leave this digital sh*thole - if empathy is going to be restricted, it is simply not wanted on these platforms… 😔
Thank you good sir, i almost had to read a potty word. Thanks for making the internet great and save again.
Hopefully we make it „safe“. 🫢
Why not work with each other to find ways to get around these things and overwhelm the platform. Like remember when people found that AI put guardrails in. People were not on these comments saying "well guys we should pack it up and leave it alone, I don’t like it anyways. No, instead the collective effort to get it to say something mean was incredible. So why is it with this stuff we convince each other to leave and let these platforms be run by the right wing people. You ever ask why there’s a difference?
There ARE alternatives already and lots of great people are working on these platforms - but as long as everyone stays there „just because of…“, things won‘t change even with these options.
If great things are cloaked under a warning or a NSFW-label for no real reason, it‘s of course up to everyone to choose a different path - but this means losing followers etc. pp. - and embarking on a new platform.
So yes, we can overwhelm this platform - but do people really want this? I‘m not sure. 🤷🏼♂️
So how do you promote the new platforms if we all left?
Nobody on the right stops to ask if people want them. I mean Reddit was pretty left leaning. Now it isn’t. So what does it matter if they want you there.
It takes 10% of a group to change the views of 100% of the group. The right knew this and strategically targeted smaller sub Reddit’s before moving to bigger ones. I called this out in 2015. You could see smaller local subs shift. Then those fed into the larger city ones and then eventually the larger ones like r/Canada saw big shifts. They did this everywhere. The left has never understood this tactic I don’t know why. It was so obvious from the start.
“We use technology or a review team to identify content that should be covered,” a notice obscuring the post reads. “This post doesn’t go against our Community Standards, but may contain images that some people might find upsetting.”
Yeah, I bet.
“What the f**k, Instagram?” a Bluesky user wrote.
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“We can say ‘fuck’,” this lemmy user wrote.
This is a direct quote from the article
Yeah, everyone should stop using Instagram, Facebook, threads, reddit, tik tok. But the FOMO is too strong. It’s too bad, if they did it would fix most of their problems in like a week.
I’m actively working on moving on from Facebook. The amount of false information on the platform is just astounding and when you report the lies, you just get a response saying it doesn’t break any rules. Not even talking politics here, there was deceptive AI post about two top tennis players, that I reported.
Why is the leftist approach is to platform the opposition while the rights approach is to overwhelm the space until it does what they want?
Which approach do you think is working and which one do you think is failing?
Those spaces are overrun by bots, so have fun fighting against a never ending army of CPUs that doesn’t sleep. I am going to protect my sanity and not give them my time and energy (which equals their money).
Which approach do you think requires more money and cooperation from the network management?
Neither.
Both sides have money. In fact the left has much more money than the right.
We’re not even talking about big money here. The average right leaning person will give a dollar to any thing they agree with. The left mull over the morality and ethics of a thing until it passes then they say “well I would punch a Nazi if I ever needed to” but they can’t even muster the energy to read a comment they disagree with.
Look at the donations given to random assholes who said something anti vaccination. Millions of donating poured in. Look at that women that yelled racial slurs at kids in a park. Millions.
I saw Jon Stewart posted here the other day and the comments were calling him a fascist.
We’re fucking done.
I asked which approach requires more money, not who has more. You said the left doesnt want to spend that money, ok. Maybe the mass of liberals collectively has more money, maybe. Not the left though. And the network cooperation part? Which agendas are being priviledged by the recomendation algorithms in social medias?
I think you forgot to say the reason why you think the left has more money than the right.
Exactly.
Okay, now do religion.
Everyone should stop going to churches, synagogues, mosques, the church of latter day saints, and scientology. But the FOMO and fear of eternal damnation is too strong. It’s too bad, if they could just realize that everything is god including themselves, they could live happier more fulfilling lives in like a week.
Wayyy ahead of you.
I’m so far ahead of you I’m actually behind you.
People don’t really go to services for god or salvation, they do it for community.
I stopped going to church because the community was composed of rank hypocrites and bigots. I can have communal spaces elsewhere.
100 percent true. After many long years of observation and philosophical debates with myself, this was the logical conclusion I came to.
Most of those who visit th se “holy places” do so for the community and rarely for any actual religious reason.
Alright, the only way we can defeat religion is with cookouts and community events
It won’t work. Everything gets monetized and marketed till it’s soulless and drug-like.
Everything…
much more likely than with logical debates online, I’d say
That’s what happens when you sukk the zukk
It’s time for Pixelfed!
My wife is very progressive and believes in human rights. Her Facebook feed went conservative about a week ago now with constant right wing propaganda.
FB has been normally Right wing propaganda arm for ru, for like a decade. i think they might have ramped it up. plus AI bots are probably running the site anyways.
Truth, I was in the boy to alt-right pipeline cause Facebook targets literally everybody with these obtrusive ads and logic void arguments that cause brain rot. I was 15 going on hate crime because a popular Facebook post told me I was an alpha, ten years before this beta/alpha shit hit the mainstream. I’m a much more reserved adult but I’m so depressed my family still takes part in social media. I feel like I don’t have friends because I’m not on insta like what hell did we turn into
She’s not very progressive if she uses Facebook.
I have asked her to get off of Facebook for awhile, but she is reluctant because her whole family uses it as their primary form of communication.
I ditched Facebook finally during COVID. I had already known it was a garbage platform, but I was feeling similarly because a lot of people I knew used it. The same thing happened to my feed though and I started getting a ton of anti-vax content.
What was worse is because I am pro-health and medical technology I advocated for people to be safe. I started getting death threats by friends of friends. I was flabbergasted and decided to delete my account then and there. If Facebook could turn people anti-vax and pro-murder I had to leave.
Yeah the people become awful on it. But then there is also the data collection and the active political manipulation by the platform itself. Not to mention directly funding Zuckerberg and his plans.
I never was on Facebook, I saw it as a bad idea when it came out. But I understand how many people including friends or family use it. I am pretty blunt: they support Trump, they support billionaires, they support fascism. Both figuratively and literally. Zuck just purchased 11 homes to make yet another compound. The money is from people participating. There is no mincing of words on this, particularly now. Fortunately people are beginning to see that they are getting less of what they asked for (friends and family updates) and that seems to be annoying them enough to at least consider other options. Its harder for them to understand how much of their information had been slanted or even hidden from them.
I know it is hard. Thanks for sharing that you work in a field were you could see how manipulation and non critical thinking can make everybody seems so crazy. COVID was so full of lies and nonsense it was unreal. I lost a lot of people that I thought would never believe in Qanon or conspiracy and I think I can tie a straight line back to Facebook.
The next target is getting people off Instagram, and those folks are dug in even harder.
Not even remotely the same. Being on Facebook actively funds fascism there is no other way to look at it.
So does purchasing groceries at Walmart, but many Americans have no choice in that matter.
I do appreciate that you had a more empathetic comment for the guy whose girlfriend is still on Facebook. Thank you for having the civility to not call her a fascist sympathizer to his face. But don’t worry, your true feelings are safe with me.
This is not how you make allies btw.
We are way beyond finding allies. Call it what it is.
Does Walmart actively distort your news, your information, your opinions? Does it select what you see to push an agenda? Does it require yo to provide information about who you are and who your friends are?
I have a distaste for people shopping at wallmart, but this is beyond that.
Remember, there is nothing Facebook provides that anyone needs. It is a choice.
Progressives don’t go to Nazi bars.
Big tech has gone full fascist for a bit now
How else you get big bucks from sellimg surveillance tech to the state? Not with principled politicians.
With literally no tech opposition from the left
It’s almost as though most of the techbros are fascists who read about half of Atlas Shrugged and think it makes them smart.
The left had so many things they hated that the right manipulated them into cancelling every single celebrity with a skeleton in their closet. This made all of the terrified. At the same time the right showed they will defend and enrich anyone who even looks their way. The left alienated everyone they could, the right embraced them and offered a safe space. This isn’t complicated. It isn’t Atlas Shrugged. It’s basic human nature and social awareness. The left bought right into so many poisoned apples.
I read through the comments. Literally someone below is even saying “Tech bros are all fascist sympathizers”. I like tech. Do I now say fuck the left because that’s me I like tech and therefore I am a fascist sympathizer? Like its unreal how the left labels things and then has no awareness why they have lost people who traditionally would have been leaning left. I don’t think there ever will be any self awareness on this either.
I can’t imagine the mentality of walking around and saying everything and everyone is a piece of shit and then at the end of the day going “why is nobody supporting me”. People are not fascist or Nazis or whatever because they are helping Trump. They just hate all of you. A lot of the world does.
Sure, but what? All the tech-savvy Americans are fascist sympathizers? No actually bright and plugged-in people in the tech world?
Fascist techbros were already somewhere between wealthy and ultra wealthy.
There are plenty of non-fascist tech-savvy Americans, they just don’t control Scrooge McDuck amounts of money.
Breaking things online isn’t expensive. The asymmetry is the point. In the digital arena, knowledge scales faster than money.
Organize. Identify fascist sympathizing corporations, organizations, churches, NPOs- infrastructure disruption, financial sabotage, data exposure…
Even for those who aren’t “hackers,” why is there not a massive indimidation campaign against MAGA trash? Catfish, get receipts, out cheaters, perverts, and pedos to their families and communities. Find the “apolitical” folks who LARP like Nazis on Twitter. Share their Nazi shit with their employers.
All the tech-savvy Americans
No, just techbros.
Okay so… everyone else is just… allowing it? Nobody going on the offense? Obviously Americans have no stomach for the violence that WILL be necessary- so what’s the excuse for the total lack of cyberwarfare?
It’s really disturbing seeing social media start leaning this way. It’s very obvious controlled fascist propaganda. Have you seen what Twitter is now? It’s actually creepy and insane.
Remove yourself from algo driven sites, set up an rss reader and hand pick your media, subcribe to newsletters of trustworthy media sites, delete useless apps from your phone or better jailbreak it and install graphene, get an e-reader secondhand and start reading etc etc.
This is how everything works under capitalism.
Capitalism? Are these paid services? This is bribery. They are getting something from the government for pushing their agenda.
They are paid services. The ad companies pay the services for access to the services resources.
Ads? Are they not talking about user generated content?
Yep. Has been since before I was born. I don’t know if it’s ever been this blatantly obvious before. But I guess it always seems that way when you’re living through it.
When will we get over the corpo social media
I asked that before it started.
Here we are.
Instagram is Facebook so no surprise there.
facebook= propaganda arm of russia, for boomers, and a site filled with bots.
