• kameecoding@lemmy.world
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    This is why I don’t like trump being called a nazi, a nazi was a nickname for the german fascist based on the name of the political party NSDAP, specifically the N part, National with the ti part being pronounced the same as the zi part in nazi.

    Trump is an american fascist. When you call him a nazi it paints the picture of the ultra villified almost over the top hollywood nazi and it muddies the water and lets other fascist media pundits dismiss it over exaggeration.

    Now after being pedantic I prefer these lists tlto check if you live in a fascist state

    https://www.keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/

    https://osbcontent.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PC-00466.pdf

    Spoiler alert: the US is under control of a fascist government.

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        No, as I explained it was a nickname like Krauts were the German soldiers.

        But I guess colloquially it became interchangeable with the use of fascism.

        Much like kleenex became a word to mean box of tissues even though it’s just a brand of it.

        So fascism = box of tissues, nazi = kleenex.

        Either way, like I said, it’s just being pedantic, fascist cunts are fascists cunts doesn’t matter if they are Nazis, Magas or Soviets.

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          There were fascists in Europe until the 1970s.

          The MAGA movement is fascist but it also has strong overtones of Nazi (blaming immigrants, camps, detention without due peocess).

          Yes, there is nationalism without any socialism, but saying they shouldn’t be called Nazis is diminishing the evil that is currently being done.

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            There are literally fascists in Europe right now lol, it didn’t just go away, Macron almost to the fascist party and the AFD is the new fascist german party with huge support. Orbán fulfills at least half the the fascist checkbox if not more.

            I am not sure if you have opened my links, but you probably should,

            blaming immigrants, camps, detention without due peocess

            You would see that these are explicitly mentioned as telltale sign of Fascism.

            If you want here is an excellent video explaining fascism, specifically white fascism https://youtu.be/5Luu1Beb8ng

            Yes, there is nationalism without any socialism, but saying they shouldn’t be called Nazis is diminishing the evil that is currently being done.

            I have really not sure what you are getting at, they are nazis because National is pronounced as Nazional in german and that got shortened to nazi, they aren’t called nazis because it starts with Na and there is a zi in Sozialistiche.

            Here it is how it’s pronounced if you are interested https://youtu.be/VxxFl5Xc8nc

            And the socialism has literally nothing to do with it, NSDAP was socialist the same way north korea is democratic, you know it’s called Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

            saying they shouldn’t be called Nazis is diminishing the evil that is currently being done.

            Again, this implies that Nazi is like a stronger word for fascists, it’s not, it’s not like some is a fascist and then they do more bad and become a nazi. The political ideology is called fascism because it originates from Italy, from Mussolinis party.

            All nazis are fascists. neo-nazis drew on the nazi movement and borrowed their imagery etc, but they never committed anything close to what the actual nazis did.

            MAGAs are fascists who pretty much check all the checkboxes on the fascist list that as I said I have linked above.