and what can you do with that single core? probably 1.2 GHz tops, no AVX and AES and others…

“your own discord server” was never a server, just a blatant lie, or “marketing” term. in matrix spaces are the equivalent (or similar) feature

Matrix is not something you can just set up with no skills.

not everyone needs to host their own server. just choose an existing one that’s not matrix. org (which is basically overloaded)

And apparently the ability to watch YT

the ability to watch youtube on a 240x320 screen? at that level, video is heavily compressed. is any text in videos readable? is it possible to discern tools and screws? or is it just a low-level entertainment device effectively?

Though yeah, my post is more about feature phones, not real dumbphones as I originally wrote in the title.

I have to admit I did not recognize a difference between these two. I thought feature phones and dumb phones are the same category.

The advantage here is that the underlying browser engine is ran and updated on the server. This helps avoid the KaiOS situation: KaiOS v2 (the last version in Europe) uses Firefox 48 (current version is 137).

there is no advantage there, only disadvantages. a dumb phone is not supposed to have internet features. but this is wholly running in the cloud? that’s a horrible privacy nightmare, and it must also be very inefficient as it places a relatively large load on the network and the company has to run powerful servers that use unnecessarily large amounts power, more than normal dumb phones of the same quantity would

There are some rumors on /r/dumbphones about a WhatsApp CloudFone app which would be big.

yeah it would be so big if I bought a dumb phone because I’m fed up with tech and then I’m forced into facebook services in yet another “innovative” way. pretty sure they would even market it with “end to end encryption” and “security” even though the server sees everything

I get that this approach is not acceptable to the freedom-oriented, tech-savvy demographic on Lemmy, but it looks like this is where the mainstreaim is heading right now.

I really dont get why if so. why does anyone want tiktok and such on a dumbphone? then buy the cheapest smartphone from alibaba or your local telecom company. the entire purpose of dumbphones is to be able to call and SMS, keep a simplistic contact book and that’s it

also, how does it even run a web browser when the whole device has just 128 MB RAM. will the device crash if I load up facebook. com?

that probably does not have redundancy

I AM THE ADMINISTATOR!

well, yeah, maybe it should have gone to the parent comment

to be honest if that happens its better to understand why that happens, instead of just pulling the plug. maybe a larger program (like firefox) is still exiting and in the middle of saving the session and closing databases. if you pull the plug, it’ll corrupt its data, it’ll forget your opened tabs and whatnot and you’ll be angry

browsers are not protocols but applications. how do you make an open standard for an application? was that done before?

you shouldn’t allow a web browser and an operating system be in one company

yeah, i too have set up a redirect for port 53 to my DNS server on the main router, for a long time didn’t do that though. but then, even this doesn’t matter if they just hardcode a list of IPs

that was a good one :) fixed the typo

that may not be enough. while I don’t know how common it is, it is not unknown that they use DoH, DoT, direct connections to hardcoded IP without DNS to evade such blocking measures. chinese IP cams often do the latter

if pihole says its blocked, that does not mean your device does not also query another DNS server

and once they should really hardcode the DNS or similar stuff here, the connection will be disabled

but how’ll you notice that? that ads return? different subsystems of the tv might work differently

Once they try to reach IPs directly (ECOVACS once did so) you may block those on a firewall-basis

and how do you know what IPs to block? and then, a server on an IP could hold multiple services such that blocking it breaks multiple things.

I’m not here to tease you, but I really think that this might not be enough even today

well that’s what I’m saying to the parent commenter

with a pihole they can easily work around, or proper network isolation?

this sounds terrible

such things should be brought back to the store as defective

a quick reminder that the 5G standard defined a peer to pear peer operating mode for smart devices