LustyArgonian

I addressed that point by saying their intent to be racist or not is irrelevant when we focus on impact to the actual victims (ie systemic racism). Who cares about the individual engineer’s morality and thoughts when we have provable, measurable evidence of racial disparity that we can correct easily?

It literally allows black people to die and saves white people more. That’s eugenics.

It is fine to coordinate with universities in like Kenya, what are you talking about?

I never said shit about the makers of THIS tool being punished! Learn to read! I said the tool needs fixed!

Like seriously you are constantly taking the position of the white male, empathizing, then running interference for him as if he was you and as if I’m your mommy about to spank you. Stop being weird and projecting your bullshit.

Yes, doctors who use this tool on their black patients and white patients equally would be perofmring eugenics, just like the doctors who sterikized indigenous women because they were poor were doing the same. Again, intent and your ego isn’t relevanf when we focus on impacts to victims and how to help them.

We should demand they work in a very meaningful way to get the data to be as good for black people as their #1 priority, ie doing studies and collecting that data

It isn’t crazy and it’s the basis for bioethics, something I had to learn about when becoming a bioengineer who also worked with people who literally designed AI today and they continue to work with MIT, Google, and Stanford on machine learning… I have spoked extensively with these people about ethics and a large portion of any AI engineer’s job is literally just ethics. Actually, a lot of engineering is learning ethics and accidents - they go hand in hand, like the Hotel Hyatt collapse.

I never suggested they stop developing the screening technology, don’t strawman, it’s boring. I literally gave suggestions for how they can fix it and fix their data so it is no longer functioning as a tool of eugenics.

Different case below, but related sentiment that AI is NOT a separate entity from its creators/engineers and they ABSOLUTELY should be held liable for the outcomes of what they engineer regardless of provable intent.

https://lemmy.world/post/21189801/13055286

You don’t think the people who make the generative algorithm have a duty to what it generates?

And whatever you think anyway, the company itself shows that it feels obligated about what the AI puts out, because they are constantly trying to stop the AI from giving out bomb instructions and hate speech and illegal sexual content.

The standard is not and was never if they were “entirely” at fault here. It’s whether they have any responsibility towards this (and we all here can see that they do indeed have some), and how much financially that’s worth in damages.

They absolutely have power over the data sets.

They could also fund research into other cancers and work with other countries like ones in Africa where there are more black people to sample.

It’s impossible to know intent but it does seem pretty intentionally eugenics of them to do this when it has been widely criticized and they refuse to fix it. So I’d say it is explicitly racist.

https://www.epi.org/publication/wage-theft-bigger-problem-forms-theft-workers/

https://www.epi.org/publication/employers-steal-billions-from-workers-paychecks-each-year/

https://www.baldwin.senate.gov/news/press-releases/baldwin-fights-against-wage-theft-with-legislation-that-ensures-workers-get-the-pay-theyve-earned

https://www.edelson-law.com/blog/2022/10/wage-theft-outpaces-all-other-theft-in-america/

https://www.golanlaw.com/blog/2022/04/wage-theft-is-the-largest-form-of-theft-in-the-united-states/

Reddit used to have an entire shoplifting subreddit (r/shoplifting for the wayback) that regularly made fun of the loss prevention subreddit and the two subs often stole ideas from each other and would taunt each other. There was obvious sexual tension between them

Ofc it got banned even though it was technically a “roleplay” sub

Exactly this.

What content broke the laws? Can you give more info? BlueSky has been pretty good so far so this surprises me

Yeah, there are a lot of men on here who really go to bat for pedophilia. Don’t even BREATHE a word about AI porn of children being immoral because it is modeled after irl children and can be made to blackmail kids etc. Don’t ever argue with any Muslim misogynists on here that child marriage is bad or that feminism in Islam is good. Never be upset that a man was saying it is “probably” not good for kids if they participate in sex acts (we have specific physiological signs like bedwetting that show CSA is inherently damaging to humans) but that it should be totally normal to have your kids WATCH you fuck because they probably did that in medieval times.

And people wonder why my bio recommends BlueSky

I think you’re actually doing here what you are accusing me of re: misinterpretting. My last comment was mild af.

The world has become more hateful. It’s not just online or in people’s heads. We have evidence that massive online warfare happens, literal psychological warfare and soldiers paid to post hate online all day every day. One independent journalist estimated at least a trillion dollars spent for various election/political meddling in 2024 and 2025, with protests in Romania, Georgia, Serbia, Slovakia, South Korea, Germany, Poland, etc etc etc.

So yeah, you got a downvote, grow up about it. You’re wrong and didn’t contribute anything meaningful to the conversation. This isn’t even “hate,” this is simple disagreement that you are too thin-skinned to handle.

Hate is stuff like: ableism, misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia. Eg a roomba yelling the N word at people. It is not disagreeing with you and downvoting you, lol. For fucks sake.

Edit for your E2: The massive online armies are using online hate to conduct genocides and kill people more efficiently. With massive networks of countries with camps and slavery including Assad’s knowledge of death camps.

BlueSky is genuinely one of the least toxic socials I’ve had in a while. I can agree to disagree there on normal issues like whether UBI should be given in a lump sum, weekly, monthly- it’s not fucking assholes “debating” if aliens built the pyramids and whether we should drink our own pee or if good faith arguments are important or if it’s “natural” to be attracted to 14yr old girls as an adult man (all topics I’ve seen on Lemmy).

Someone hacked a roomba last year to yell the N word at people on a mic.

The WORLD has become more hateful, it is not simply perception.

Theres so much pedophilia, wanton violence, racism, misogyny, homophobia, ableism, transphobia… fuck all these people. May they never find peace or happiness. We owe no one politeness.

No, I am not saying that.

I’m saying if an AI image is sexual and seeded from irl child models, then it is CSAM.

Adult women who consensually post their image to social media are WAY different than children who can’t consent to even enter a contract.

Also, I did argue that already when I mentioned how many AI porn models are directly seeded from Scarlett Johansson’s face. Can you read?

It’s the root of their issues, I firmly believe this. We must fight fascism with free, consensual love and sex ✌️

Oof, that curse is going to bite you back hard, I’d be careful how you treat others moving forward

Trying to squirm out of your curse, huh? Won’t work. You literally have to prevent the US from having a full out civil war in order to stop it. Whether I can read is irrelevant, it’s whether I can curse someone that matters, and I did that perfectly here. May you always be treated as you treat others.

…the entire subject of this thread is about her, so it indeed DOES make sense that readers here would have that context lol. Further, it’s you who is literally ignorant of this info, if someone knows it, then by definition they aren’t ignorant to that knowledge. Projection by a narcissist.

It doesn’t cost more than 1/20th of a calorie for you to ask for context, and voila, I gave it to you. You have that link now.

Saying “no need to kink shame,” implies you don’t need more context or a link and that you understand and accept what McMahon did, because you came to her defense right away. You’d have to give some kind of indication that you didn’t know the context for me to understand that, at that point. Obviously. Please, get checked for a stroke ASAP. I’m concerned.

I cursed you with a civil war, since that’s what you want so bad for others, not an attack from the US. Learn to read. Get checked for strokes.

Yes, it is seeded with kids’ faces, including specific children like someone’s classmate. And yes, those children, all of them, who it uses as a reference to make a generic kid face, are all being abused because it’s literally using their likeness to make CSAM. That’s quite obvious.

It would be different if the AI was seeding models from cartoons, but it’s from real images.

What I referenced is well known. That you didn’t know and couldn’t nicely ask for a link says more about your intellectual narcissism and beliefs than anything.

Further, I curse you to live as you treat others. May your country have a civil war too. May you experience everything you callously celebrate in others. Have fun with your curse.

Okay, thanks for wasting both of our time by commenting in the first place at all? Are you MAGA and just worried you’re going to be outed or something?

Here’s the link of her doing that: https://youtu.be/zQ0bGm82q0k