Yeah I thought odometer fraud was like a serious thing, I wonder if it applies here.

The other servers do cache the content for some time yes, but if your server is based in a country not friendly to your posts then you are vulnerable to takedowns as you say and you could be inconvenienced by having the admins of your server delete your account or something.

The benefit I’m saying we have in the fediverse is that you can pick a server in a politically safe area (ie outside Turkey in this case), so they are less likely to comply, especially if they are small or don’t care about being blocked by that country (that’s usually the only thing they can do unless you have an office or staff there that can be arrested - less likely to be the case if your server is run by some dude in another country).

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I’m saying that if your home server (mastodon.social in your example) is outside of Turkey, then there is less reason for them to comply in the first place because they only risk the mastodon.social server being blocked in Turkey. That one is a bad example because they’re one of the largest and they might have a bunch of users in Turkey, so if you want to be extra safe, you’d want to pick a server that isn’t so big so that they are less likely to care about complying with some other county that they might not have any users from.

If the server you use is based inside the country that has a problem with your content, then you’d be screwed - though all the other servers will still mirror and cache your content for a bit even if you get taken down.

The resiliency lies in the fact that you can choose to register in a country that is politically friendly towards your posts or if your home country is friendly but you want to avoid being taken down, you can self host a single user instance and refuse any requests from other countries.

Edit: Now that I think about it, there’s also the fact that as long as the account itself isn’t limited by their home server, the content in question would be accessible through the federated copies, so if the home server isn’t within Turkey / jurisdiction and doesn’t take down the account, the country trying to take down the content would need to send takedown requests or request to geofence the content to each individual server on the entire fediverse - since the home server would be freely federating it to every server with users who follow the content, otherwise they would need to block every fediverse server and every new one every day that more pop up.

The difference is that if your home server is outside of Turkey then you can tell them to kick rocks. Bluesky probably complies because they don’t want to be blocked from Turkey. In a truly decentralized system like activitypub, only the server hosting the account / content in question risks being blocked, which means almost nothing the closer you get to a single account instance. Meanwhile every other server not in Turkey would not notice a difference.

Edit: this was under the assumption that they took it down completely, but it looks like they only geofenced it. Regardless, if they are pressured enough they would be capable of completing hiding an account worldwide, which isn’t possible with activitypub without the legal alignment of every instance’s country since bluesky on the other hand has sole control of the only relay.

I use a .dev and it just works with letsencrypt. I don’t do anything special with wildcards, I just let traefik request a cert for every subdomain I use and it works. I use the tls challenge which works on port 443, so I don’t think HSTS or port 80 matters, but I still forwarded port 80 it so I can serve an http->https redirect since stuff like curl and probably other tools might not know about HSTS.

I think we’ll have to agree to disagree then, I don’t think that is at all the obvious interpretation and I don’t think everyone needs to clarify where they live when talking about it to “avoid the issue”.

Imo if people making assumptions about others living in the US annoys you then you should find it more annoying when someone assumes where you live AND assumes you intended to be presumptuous about it.

Is it wrong to want to talk about the place you live in without telling people where you live? Should everyone be required to state the place they live in any time they talk about it? I don’t really see what the problem is with speaking about your place of residence without revealing where you live. I don’t get how not mentioning where you live means you assume everyone knows. Maybe you not knowing is intentional.

While I think it’s annoying when people assume others live in the US, I think it’s even more annoying to both assume people who don’t mention where they live must live in the US and also assume they intended you to know that they live in the US.

Doesn’t “as a city” just tell you who the “we” refers to? As in “we, the people of our city, need x”? That’s how I understand it.

It’s all good! For some reason your comment still shows up in my inbox in Sync so I didn’t realize

Gotcha thanks for the info! It looks like I would be fine with ocis or opencloud, but since my main use case and pain points are with document editing which is collabora, it probably wouldn’t change much besides simplifying the docker setup (I had to make a gross pile of nginx config stuff pieced together from many forum help posts to get the nextcloud fpm container to work smoothly). But it already works so unless it breaks there’s little incentive for me to change.

talking like your city is the default and everyone knows which one you’re talking about.

Does this mean that everyone must always specify the geographic area they are from when they talk about it lest they risk being accused of assuming everyone knows? I often say that “we need public transit in my city” and it never once crossed my mind that other people would know or assume what city I’m referring to.

I still don’t see how saying that you want x or y in your country is equivalent to talking like your community is the default.

I would totally agree if the statement was “we need x in my country and you all should vote for it” because that would be assuming everyone reading is able to participate and therefore lives there. But that’s far from what the statement was, which made no assumptions and didn’t even mention a country. All they said was that they want something in their country.

I agree it could be more clear, but I don’t think it’s fair to jump down their throat when they didn’t even mention the US. It just strikes me as an uncharitable interpretation.

(Protip: It’s because we know they’ve assumed the US as the default country, since that’s a really common phenomenon)

I think that would be a valid complaint if they had actually lumped everyone in this thread into their statement by assuming that everyone here lives in the US by default, but I sincerely think that any charitable interpretation of their comment reads as “we” simply meaning “the people of my country”.

What part of their comment assumes that everyone else is from their country? I only see them referring to themselves and their own country.

If I said “we need public transit as a city” am I assuming that everyone lives in my city or am I simply talking about my own city? I don’t see why this is any different and it seems very nitpicky.

Ah I see, I guess at least that would help with the main UI, but I’m already using collabora through the collabora code server in next cloud so it sounds like I’ll probably have the same document editing experience with OCIS/opencloud. I used to use onlyoffice but after I tried out their mobile app, it started blocking me from editing documents using the next cloud app (which seemed to use the only office web UI) so I was forced to switch unless I started paying for onlyoffice.

What are the apps that you would miss? I basically only use my NC as a Google drive and docs replacement, so all it has to do is store docx files and let me edit them on desktop or mobile without being glitchy and I’ve really wanted to consider OCIS or similar.

That second requirement for me seems hard because of how complex office suites are, but NC is driving me to my wit’s end with how slow and error prone it is, and how glitchy the NC office UI is (like glitches when selecting text or randomly scrolling you to the beginning).

Well, they can be simultaneously true if one person has a terrible experience because of Nvidia and another person with an all amd build who happens to have a Linux friendly touchpad (is that still a problem these days?) might have a perfect experience out of the box.

I think that’s a major weakness, that windows will be good or bad in various ways but it’s very consistent - the things that suck usually suck for everyone. With Linux everything depends, not only on hardware but with your use case, the distro you pick, the tools you use, etc.

Looks really interesting, I tried to download it off of hugging face though and my access request was denied, so I guess it’s not really downloadable today for regular people it seems.

After I check the usual torrent sites, if I can’t find it on Usenet then I try finding random sketchy streaming sites (just by duckduckgoing title + year + stream) because usually you can youtube-dl them with a little fiddling, then my last resort is a DHT indexer like btdig. That’s more risk with viruses but if you’re paying attention it’s not that hard to avoid, but DHT indexes have lots of ancient stuff so be prepared to wait for seeds if you find it.

Sometimes I also find what I’m looking for on like page 7 of duckduckgo results at archive.org

Edit: also check soulseek - it’s primarily for music but you can share any file. I share my entire movies collection and get a constant stream of people downloading from me daily so it seems people search for and seem to also share TV and movies so it’s worth a check.