cross-posted from: https://leminal.space/post/23562172
Put together this original short with a track I produced, inspired by MJ — upbeat, danceable, and full of energy with a modern twist and AI Image
Also made a MJ tribute video on tik tok
cross-posted from: https://leminal.space/post/23562172
Put together this original short with a track I produced, inspired by MJ — upbeat, danceable, and full of energy with a modern twist and AI Image
Also made a MJ tribute video on tik tok
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
For what reason would someone have to have produced music to have an opinion on it?
Surely most spotify listeners have not produced music, so if you were to hit top ten on it hypothetically, then it should be a meaningless achievement for you as a result, since non-producers opinions don’t matter to you apparently.
I hope you have never had an opinion on anything unless you have personally done it yourself, otherwise you’d be an enormous hypocrite for saying something so foolish.
If you want what you make to produce good opinions, then perhaps instead of arguing with every single comment, you should take the fact that you are getting ratioed in both of your posts as a sign that you can do better when it comes to what you produce.
If instead you take the stance that “everyone is wrong except me”, then no worries, you can enjoy doing what you do for you alone - but never expect that anyone else will care if that is your objective. If you want other people to care, then learn to take criticism and act on it in a better way.
Having an opinion is fine — everyone can enjoy or dislike music. But claiming to understand the process without ever producing is like critiquing a chef without knowing how to cook.
It sure is - that’s how society works pal. People are allowed to like or dislike whatever they do or do not.
Do you have any political opinions whatsoever? Then by god, you better be running for office.
Otherwise that’s like critiquing politicians without ever having passed a bill into law yourself.
See what I mean?
You can have opinions on politics without being a politician, you can have opinions on what food you like without being a chef, you can have opinions on what clothes you like without being a tailor, and you can have opinions on what music you think is good without being a musician.
It also doesn’t matter if you understand the process, it only matters what people think of the result. A painter doesn’t expect clients or anyone who views their art to understand why they chose oils over acrylics, they only care that the art can be enjoyed (even if its just themselves who enjoys it), but again, they don’t expect to sell the art unless other people enjoy it.
I highly suspect you would not make this claim about people understanding the process if people said they thought what you made was good.
If every comment had positive feedback for you, would your response to them be “Yea but what you are saying doesn’t count, because you don’t understand the process I used”?
I doubt that. It is only because it is negative feedback you have decided to utilize Tu Quoque (criticizing criticism) under the guise of a No True Scotsman (no real producer would say this because they understand the process of what I have done, so this criticism does not count) fallacy.
In reality, it doesn’t matter. Artists who go platinum dont have millions of listeners because all of those listeners know how sidechain compression works or something, they have them because those people think the music is good for whatever reason they decide.
You really dropped a college thesis just to say ‘I don’t like it’ — you could’ve just scrolled on like the rest of the internet’s unpaid critics
Again, you should follow the link from my initial message that will explain Tu Quoque to you, because you are doing it again.
To avoid criticism, you are just criticizing the fact that I have made criticism instead of responding to the actual arguments that comprise it.
Unfortunately that doesn’t really work in this case since I have never critiqued your music, I have only critiqued your arguments against others who have critiqued your music.
This is made very clear by the fact that I have not once stated I did not personally like it, and yet you are trying to throw that out as a counter argument.
This as well as you referring to 13 sentences as a college thesis, as well you clearly not having followed my link on Tu Quoque very much tells me that you haven’t even read my comments (or if you have, haven’t tried to understand what I have said) in order to establish any reasonable counter argument to my criticism.
As a result, I’ll just take your last comment here as evidence you cannot support your position in favor of your music, which I really can’t blame you for because your position is paper-thin and not really possible to defend if anyone takes more interest than a passing glance.
Additionally, the idea that you posted this on the internet, on a forum with comments, and then tell commenters “you could’ve just scrolled on like the rest of the internet’s unpaid critics” makes it pretty evident you have unreasonable expectations.
Would you prefer everyone scrolled on instead of commenting at all? Would you prefer no one took more interest in what you made than a passing glance? If that’s the case, the best case scenario for you here that you are describing is if there were no comments and no votes on your posts, and if you prefer that over criticism, I can only expect you do not care enough about your own work to improve upon it based on criticism.
If that is what you want, then you should have made your post in Microsoft Word, where no one could see it. That way no one would be able to criticize it or you. Since you did not do this, it is clear it is not what you actually want.
It implies that you just want to be worshipped for anything you make regardless of how little or how much effort you put into it, or what anyone thinks about it, which shows you as being quite narcissistic, or in the least, fairly immature.
All this over a song? Kinda wild. The fact that this much effort is being poured into dissecting it honestly proves my point better than I ever could. If it really wasn’t worth anyone’s time, we wouldn’t be five paragraphs deep into personality diagnostics and fallacy name-drops. Appreciate the passion though — clearly, I struck a chord
Clearly not if you read any of what I have said.
More Tu Quoque. You should think out an argument that holds at least a drop of weight before you speak, otherwise it just reinforces that you don’t have an argument in the first place.
Oh I don’t think so. Given you used AI to generate the music instead of playing it yourself, I’d be quite surprised if you knew how to play a chord in the first place.
Please enjoy the exact same reaction with whatever you should put on the internet next time, because if you don’t make changes based on criticism, you will only achieve the same result.
Bye.
Are you another Reddit reject?