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They are totally out of stock and MSRP cards were gone before I could press the button to order one at 6 AM Pacific.
Paper launch, i tried at 3 shops pressing f5 and never saw a card. They had them for a few seconds
If you can believe the pictures posted on the net, most apparently cards went to Microcenter in the US. Some locations supposedly had 500+ each of both cards.
In Europe, it was only a bit better than the 50-series, unless you want to pay like 20% over MSRP.